Within the plan tab, we'd like to have the following lists
I know I can create quick filters that would show any combination of issues, but we'd prefer to easily drag issues between two backlog-type lists; this is versus opening the untriaged issue in a separate window and changing it's state to "Ready for Development" to make it show up in a filtered backlog
I apologize if I have misread the issue.
We have a simple fix. Just make an inactive sprint called backlog 2 or whatever else you want to call it.
That way you can collapse or expand it like sprints, and you can send from the actual backlog to it.
Sharing your pain. When we were using TFS, we used to have one technical debt backlog and one product backlog. The PO would prioritize the product backlog, and the team and I (SM) would prioritize the technical debt backlog. Then come the sprint planning, we will fill 20% of the capacity with technical debt items and the rest with product development. Now with Jira I can't, tks Jira.
BTW, for the people telling us we are doing it wrong, there is a special place in hell for the SCRUM police.
You're doing it wrong.... Nah, you're not in the slightest.
Jira doesn't support this directly because it's not generally done with "multiple backlogs" (they're confusing and messy). The "take x% technical debt in each sprint" is a great thing to do, and I wish more people did it.
The usual approach is to have a clear indicator of type - if an issue is classed as product or technical debt by using the issue type(s) or Epics or labels, you can see this in the backlog, so when you are dragging things into the sprint, and pull in what's needed.
The weaknesses there are twofold
First - prioritising single backlogs is a pain. It's very easy to end up with the top n issues all being product or tech debt, so it's hard to re-prioritise the others up to include in the sprint.
To help with that, I try to use quick-filters and a slight kludge. One filter is for "product" and another for "tech debt". You prioritise within each, ignoring the other. The slight kludge that comes in is you have one issue that's always open, and is both product and tech debt. When you've finished prioritising each pile, you move a handful of the top issues (ideally slightly more than the amount you'd like to get done in the next sprint) above the marker. Then you can do sprint planning, drawing in as much as you can from both sets of issues that are above the marker.
Second - this is the one I've not got any real fix for. The method does not help you with sizing a lot, you have to rely on your prioritising users to get the numbers about right.
I know this doesn't seem better than "two backlogs", but it seems to work. I stole it completely from a place that actually has five sets of inputs from users (and sadly, no tech debt, it would have been fantastic to have added that as a sixth!).
Having scribbled all of that, there are other methods. Having three boards can do it (a main one, one for tech debt, third for product - a little clumsy because you never sprint on anything other than main which looks odd). And another option is to implement the incoming queues as status. A workflow would start with "open" or "new", and that would transition to either "tech debt" or "product", and your backlog is "anything in those two status", but I don't feel that really solves a lot.
Thanks Nic for your comprehensive answer. For now I have resolved my problem by creating a separate project with my tech backlog in it. Then on my product backlog I created a board based on a filter that merges both projects. If it doesn't work as well as I expect, I will try one of your options.
Not really. The way Agile generally works is "backlog", "in sprint and in progress", "in sprint and done", and "stuff we did in ended sprints". Two backlogs doesn't make a lot of sense, especially as the whole point of planning is that you have a single backlog to prioritise and work on.
I suspect this is a (large) feature request that Atlassian will probably say "no" to. But you could at least ask - raise it at https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/GHS
It was meant to ensure that the backlog remains clean and separate from untriaged feature requests / bugs which can grow fast and remain pretty big. I'll try raising a feature request though thanks
Can't agree with you more Yen.. while some purist may consider that only one backlog is necessary for any given project, I feel this creates limited planning that can jeopardize development. When some projects reach a certain size, and span more than a year of development, like many of ours, multiple backlogs ARE necessary. i.e. an 'immediate' backlog to supply current and pending Sprints within a given phase of development, with another backlog for cards to be considered in the future, or past a certain stage, such as pre-deployment, and post-launch phases. Just saying based on our experiences over the past few years...
I agree with YEN , we do see a need for multiple backlogs.
In ASIL Sw development , we would like to have one major Change request which flows between multiple backlogs say for example . Now the change request has cleared the design phase it should moved to development backlog
If we have all in one place it will be more confusing . I really see a usecase scenario to have multiple backlogs and then have different boards based on it
I completely agree with @Paul Leonard, People start telling Agile says X so we will strictly follows X, which is not the case. Agile is adaptive process and we should have flexibility to map with what project really throw to us. One of the other tool which we use along with Agile allows to create Release and Product backlog. Release backlog makes planning much easier since we can agree 2 sprint worth of work and it is very easy to track the KPIs of the team. We pick the items from Release Backlog and product backlog is funnelled through Defect and production issues backlog.
I'm aware of such an option and have implemented a few times. What we really want is to have a separate section for triage similar to how there's a separate section for each sprint. I have also tried using "Create Sprint" as a section, but sprints have to be executed in the order you create them, so that didn't work.
Did you get any solution, we too are looking for having multiple backlogs, and you are right, one backlog remains clean and other would be Unprioritized which are still evaluated.
I'm finding myself in the same situation, I want basically 2 section in the backlog. One for regular backlog and another for on-hold/archived items. We want to be able to pick the items from this list back to Backlog with ease.
From what i can see this should be a simple thing to do for Atlassian. I have created a Status called: On-Hold. Today there are a simple Column mechanism where you drag your status into that. Why not do the same thing with backlog?
Make it like column and let users drag the Status they want in Backlog.
Anyway if anyone has found a work-around they think it good for now please do share.
Thanks allot @Jack Brickey, good options. I will try and see which will work best.
Currently i have made several boards in my 1 project for various purposes and use component to separate these boards from each other. Not the best use of components but my users are just learning Jira and they get confused with even the name epic, story. Best would be to have separate projects but to them it was much simpler to switch board than projects so we went this route.
Also we only use Task and subtask since it makes more sense to them. I will see how i can use your recommendations in relation to how we use the boards.
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