Every time I resolve a customer request, the default behaviour is now to create an Internal note instead of a response to a customer. If the agent doesn't notice this, and make the extra click to choose the other tab, they create an internal note by default. All the customer sees is their ticket resolved, with no explanation. Can we choose which tab is active by default somewhere? I can't find anything on it.
This is new behaviour since the new "Resolve this issue" screen was implemented, fall of 2024.
Update: 4th March, 2025
We will be implementing a new product settings option to let you set the default for your instance. This is expected to be delivered later this financial year or early next financial year at the latest.
If you need this behaviour updated immediately, please click here to sign up to have the the default behaviour updated on your end in the meantime.
Hi all,
My name is Jehan Gonsalkorale and I am a Principal Product Manager here on Jira Service Management.
First of all, sorry to everyone who was impacted by this. We should have let you know upfront and will make sure we inform you next time we roll out changes like this.
I'll provide some context: this behaviour was changed as we modernised the transition issu experience. We made the decision to make commenting consistent in the issue view and transition issue experience.
We spoke to partners and customers and they said they preferred internal comments as the default because it made it harder to accidentally share things that were intended to be kept within the team with the customer.
That said, I can see that this is causing issues for many of you. While I'm not able to make changes immediately (changing it back will cause issues with the many customers who prefer this behaviour), I will come back to this in January and will see if there is some kind of fix we could implement.
Sorry once again for the inconvenience,
Jehan Gonsalkorale
Principal Product Manager, Jira Service Management
Jehan,
Thanks for this note. It helps some to see some communication from Atlassian and I appreciate your honesty.
Willingness to please some customers with a change that knowingly impacts the workflow of all customers is a decision that, in itself, can be picked apart. But to add to that, we were made to run into a wall (several times in some cases) and spend time researching before we figured it out. How many customers had to hit a wall I wonder.
We would never allow this from our own internal IT departments.
We find ourselves in the "Not Valued" column in your customer database.
How do we get into the Valued column?
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For the record this answer is NOT accepted. Why is that even happening?
Really basic logic problem:
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Our organization wants the default to be internal, so that it's harder to accidentally send messages to customers.
It seems like this should be something an admin sets per instance or per project.
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Just wanted to check back in since it's the middle of January and see if you had any updates on this, it's clearly impacting quite a few individuals negatively.
What are the next steps for this?
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Having the option to select the default way of commenting (internal note or comment to the customer) would also be really helpful for our support service people. Previously it was comments by default, and that's the main way our support service uses the feature, so it would be really good to have the option to change it back the way it was.
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Thank you @Jehan Gonsalkorale for the comment.
As it is January, are we able to have an update as to whether this feature will be configurable? It will need to be set on a per-screen basis for JSM.
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This is indeed a irritating 'feature'. We have sent several comments or 'requests for info' out where the requester received the notification, but not what we needed him/her to answer.
The default option should be able to be configured in the definition of the screens, or the whole area of the comment field should be colored like in the history: pale yellow when the comment goes to internal only, no background when it is a comment to the user.
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale Today is the last day of January, just wanted to check in and see if we could have an update today. Our team is eagerly anticipating an update.
I gather a few others around here are as well.
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale We just upgraded from the free to standard plan to add more agents to our team. Is that enough for us to get into the preferred customer's club yet?
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I'm yet another manager whose team has been stung by this in recent months. Giving teams longer to transition to the new paradigm is not an adequate response.
I have no doubt that there are teams who want the majority of their messages to be "internal". For those teams, the new approach is a better fit.
But for teams like ours, where 90% of our messages are directly to "customers" and "internal" messages are the rare exception, the new approach is awful. It causes us to think we have sent a message to customers only to realize (sometimes days later) that it was an internal note. This is both embarrassing and frustrating.
Jira and Service Desk are incredibly configurable in nearly every other way (sometimes annoyingly so). It seems like a small ask to allow team members the choice of defaulting to "internal" or "customer". Please reconsider.
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@Doug Johnston right? there are config pages I just can't understand the level of control, details, customization can be a head spin. This feature having no configuration feels deliberate. Why?
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Looks like there is a temporary solution to the problem, go under "Personal Jira settings" and disable this "feature"
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@Aske JepsenBumping this reply, we've had this workaround in place all week and had all our agents change this setting.
100% success with this option.
Now if only we could apply this at an Administrator level.
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Well this is still a problem. I went into personal settings today and found the toggle to disable this lame 'feature' and a dialog box popped up. We can only disable it for 8 weeks and it will come back on and run us into a wall again! Set a reminder.
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I'm worried it isn't a "reset every 8 weeks" thing, but rather a "we will no longer support the old experience after February 2025" thing.
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Amazing, thank you. I sent this to all our agents across our 11 support teams.
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Here's a suggestion for Atlassian -->
How about YOU (Atlassian) CREATE A TICKET and "GATHER INTEREST".
Then, over time, WE will VOTE on it. And then, when WE, the community, decide there's enough votes, WE WILL decide IF and WHEN we will allow YOUR CHANGE to be implemented.
What does everyone think?
Mark
Note: Sorry for the snarky-ness, but I subscribe to a LOT of these kinds of tickets and some days I get overwhelmed with frustration and despondent when I hear SO MANY of us asking fixes (often for "features" and changes we didn't ask for) that never seems to come. Today is one of those days. :-(
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale There's a bunch of things I don't recall:
"We spoke to partners and customers and they said they preferred internal comments"
Ok, that's the formal part of the user experience, and to put it very mildly, this alone is 'unpleasant' already. I do not feel as an appreciated customer, here - apart from the hundreds of Ks we're spending on your eco system.
What seriously makes me doubt the competence of anyone
is this:
JSM is a SERVICE DESK. It has a CUSTOMER PORTAL. It is intended for COMMUNICATION with CUSTOMERS. Why for anyones sake such a system should default to comms that are NOT VISIBLE TO CUSTOMERS???
Just because some of your partners and customers cannot guarantee for due diligence of their employees which info to share and which not?
Seriously, I'm lacking of the appropriate words :(
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Basically you just told every client of Atlassian, apart from the 5 largest customers you have, they don't matter to you. Cool cool, thanks.
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Hi everyone, I found this open issue gathering interest for Jira development: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JSDCLOUD-14319
Please go there and vote for it if you haven't already. The Resolve screen itself also has a "Give feedback" button in the top right corner next to the close X button, so you may want to give your feedback to Atlassian there as well.
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Hi all,
After reviewing the feedback here and on JAC, we will be building a global setting for transition screen comments next quarter which we will aim to deliver either by the end of the financial year or soon afterwards.
To everyone who provided feedback, thank you for taking the time. We reviewed every piece of feedback when making this decision. Apologies if this took more time than you hoped, but we needed to understand the work involved and work to find a team to get the work done.
Given that the new setting will not be available for several months, please sign up here to have the default behaviour changed and we will enable it for you shortly.
Thanks again for your patience and apologies for the inconvenience this change caused.
Best regards,
Jehan Gonsalkorale
Principal Product Manager, Jira Service Management
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Thanks for listening!
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale WOOOOOW thank you sooooo much for the speed of fixing your own issues. Gee we are too lucky to have such a supportive support team.
We are still going to suffer for months until this is fixed, and then its only a request to have your team manually "fix" our account?
So this is basically 100 times harder to do, than just simply give us a toggle for this setting..
Do better than this! even just a little better than this would be great.
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Sounds like Ted could use a hug if anyone is close by.
I believe Jehan is saying Atlassian is working on a permanent solution that would be a toggle for site admins to fully control it back and forth. But then ahead of that, they are offering an early access way to make public comments the default if that is what you want. Maybe I am misunderstanding though.
Another thing that would help all of this is being able to de-couple comments from transition screens all together: Allow control of whether comment field will be shown on Edit and Transition screens
Sometimes you are trying to capture required field inputs on transitions (and can leverage extra role permissions to only let certain users edit certain fields). Other times you are wanting to write a comment to the customer. If you could control whether the comment box is there on each transition screen, then you get a lot of options in your setup and don't mess with muscle memory (it will always be the same default, but sometimes not there when you don't want a comment on that particular transition). Agents are always going to make mistakes with comments (if the default is internal, they might see that it has a yellow background on the issue right after or hear from the customer that they are confused what was done/asked... if the default is public they might cause irreparable harm based on what they sent... either way has consequences).
I still also think that a colorful tool tip on one of the comment tabs to differentiate would be a really helpful quick win.
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@Greg D I really could use one, we all could 🤣
There is such a simple solution to all of this. So I am providing the same level of absurdity that Atlassian is bringing to this issue. At the end of the day, I already solved my problem with local JS plugins / code. I just have to get something out of this huge waste of time. 🍿
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No offense to anyone, but this is like government. Working on a solution to a problem it created.
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Thanks @Anne Saunders Happy to accommodate you.
@Ted Hewitt We will be implementing the product settings option to set the behaviour for your instance, sorry we can't get the work done faster. We are prioritising the work but it will take some time to do the work and we do have other priorities we have committed to customers. I see that you have requested the behaviour to be changed on our end and we will action that immediately.
@Greg D Thanks for your input as always! I definitely agree that there are improvements we can make here. I'll flag these with our team.
@Geff Hanoian Apologies for the inconvenience we caused here. I understand where you're coming from. If you sign up, we will change the behaviour within a day or two, so if this is urgent, we have a temporary fix while we make this a setting.
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale Thank you?
Your reply confirmed the message you posted, that this action is once again a temp solution for "3 months" where you will then consider again at that time to make this permanent?
So there is nothing new here.. you are doing what we can already do (temp push this off for 3 months)
When will you commit to actually putting a solution into place for this issue you guys created?
[from email reply]
This change will be enabled on your instance for up to three months, at which point we plan on disabling this feature and transition screen comments will default to "Internal note".
We will, however, review this decision before we make it and your feedback here will influence the outcome.
We will let you know two weeks before we turn this feature off and will also inform you once the change is made.
Best regards,
Jehan Gonsalkorale
Principal Product Manager, Jira Service Management
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Anyone complaining that the 3 month lead-time to their permanent fix should count themselves lucky, I've had a ticket raised with their development team for the past 6 months regarding a major issue with their priorities field affecting our organisation and it's made zero progress. I'll say it once again, Atlassian wants to charge premium prices but not act like a premium company.
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It sounds like they are reviewing the feedback in the form where people request the update. So please be thoughtful in that.
I will reiterate here what I said in the form. Customers receive an email notification when a ticket is marked as done. That is the place to communicate with customers, in one notification. Ticket Done, Ticket Resolution, Link to Satisfaction, in one email. Anything else is a disservice to the people we support.
Technical notes that are meant for internal use should be utilized separately as an internal note.
The fact that they are reverting the change on our instances tells me they are buying time, and I appreciate that we don't all have to do it individually on our profiles. I sent an email out to all agents (I have about 70) with the instructions on how they can set this, but I don't know if everyone did.
Working in Change Management, I understand that not everything is going to be a win. However, many of us were not asked for our feedback, even though apparently they "heard" from customers that this change was needed. I do feel more thought should have been put into the risk for the change and who would be negatively impacted, and a better solution that could appease how we all may use the system in different ways.
I at least appreciate that we were heard.
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Hi @Ted Hewitt apologies for the confusion, that was an automated email that I have since updated. I can confirm that we will be making this a product setting at an instance level and will let you know when we roll out the change.
@Tyler Saddington I'm sorry to hear that. If you can share the specific issue with me, I'll see if there is anything I can do to help.
@Dena Campasano Just to clarify, we will be implementing a product setting that lets you define your preferred default for transition screen comments. But, in the meantime, you have signed up so will have comments default to "Reply to customer" in the meantime. I'll let you know when the setting is available so you can set it before we deprecate the backend override.
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale Thank you for clarifying. Words have meanings and if I have made anything clear, is that I take words for what they are. And up until this last message you have never once committed to this change being permanent and had only referred to it as a temp switch to sill be considered in the future.
I will sit back, but I wont hold my breath.
*set reminder for by the end of the financial year or soon afterwards.
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Appreciate the feedback @Ted Hewitt, apologies for the confusion.
I will be reaching out to everyone who signed up to get the setting changed in the backend and will communicate updates here on Community as well.
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Awful Change Management, making a change that negatively impacts so many organizations while pleasing some.
You should have made this configurable instead, or not make a change at all.
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And who in their right mind would change service desk (clearly a b2c product) to default to response type CRICKETS ...
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Yes, please change this back to customers per default. (or allow us to switch it around as we like somewhere)
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This change is just hideous, it's significantly impacted my teams workflow and meant that several users have missed vital communications. Jira is priced like a premium product, maybe consider acting like a premium company instead of doing undocumented changes in the dark.
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+5000000000000
it's lunacy to have "resolve" to a SERVICE DESK get resolved with NO correspondence with the customer by default. They are PUBLIC users. This default would be basically giving the customer a "CRICKETS", aka lack of response. AWFUL experience for the end user. Giving the impression we, the service provider, were NOT responding at all.
Maybe instead of changing the default you ADD a setting that defaults to what we HAD and then allows someone to change the default to "internal" note, either at the workflow level or the user level. There are many better options than what was done alleging atlassian knows best what we want.
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Hi
I'm confused, there are 2 answers that have been accepted, but I can't see where any fix/resolution has been given.
Is there something we can do about this as it is annoying and makes it look like we've (Jira administrators) have made changes in the configuration when we haven't.
Thanks
Kelly
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Aske Jepsen was kind enough to share a work around on Jan 3, but EACH agent will be required to go into their personal settings to make the update. It seems to be a nice workaround but not a solution as it means using legacy settings. I hope the system is updated soon.
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This is frustrating. Give your customers the power or option to turn off this "FEATURE", who nobody wants. While I understand you are pleasing your high gross billable clients, You should have figured out a option to turn this OFF. Remember, you are making a breaking change! Stop forcing things! Atlassian this is Product Management 101.
Now, back to the ask. When are we going to get an option to turn off. Remember, we choose Jira for the customizability part of it.
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When are we going to get the option? Id be happy if Jira or @Jehan Gonsalkorale simply responded. The silence shows they have given us their answer. This is it. We need to adapt and adjust our teams to deal with this new 'feature'.
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Our customers are also experiencing negative encounters as agents close tickets as they always have, and the comments they leave are internal by default and not public. We're able to retrieve those comments only after receiving negative feedback from our customers. This default change should have an override but no such tool exists.
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We just encountered this new behavior after a customer complaint.
Would very much appreciate a fix to return the default to "Reply to customer"
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Also having this issue. Profoundly annoying change.
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Same for us. I'm constantly having to go back and double check that I selected the correct visibility. I haven't figured a way to change this yet.
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Hi this has also become an issue for our team as our service desk members are unintentionally reply with internal note meaning customers are not privy to the work that has been done.
We are working around this for now, but this must be returned to previous functionality or provide a option to switch the default comment type.
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@Wendy -
Welcome to the community. By default, when an issue is resolved by the agent, it should not add an internal comments unless your site/project has customization (i.e. WF transition) where comments is required before one can resolve the issue).
In our env, we enforce the rule where when issue moves into the RESOLVED status, we require a comment to be enter. Where agent are trained to add in the notes and decide if the comment is to be shared with customer or internal only.
Can you provide clarification on what internal note that you are seeing?
Please advise.
Best, Joseph Chung Yin
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Yes, it is requiring a comment to be entered, which is fine. However, the former workflow defaulted that comment to Reply to customer. Ever since the new Resolve this Issue dialogue box was implemented, the default active tab on the Comment field is Add internal note. Unless we notice and remember to select the other tab, we keep resolving our service tickets without our response going to the customer.
Is there a way we can configure the default active tab to be Reply to customer, as it was before?
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Hi Wendy
I've noticed the same thing. Atlassian rolled out a new "feature" for transitioning screens. This affects the comments and causes the form to default to "Add Internal note". It was originally controlled in "Features" and you could turn it off, but I just checked that that is missing. I think the rolled out to my system on 9/5/24.
This is NOT good as it is causing my JSM users (including myself) to post comments that end up as INTERNAL and so NOT being sent to customers. BAD BAD BAD!
There was some other traffic on the forums. I'll see if I can find it and post back here.
Mark
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Hey Mark,
The resolve screen does have a feedback button, so I also provided feedback using that. Hopefully they fix it soon, it's driving me batty!
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This new feature is very frustrating. There are a few cases where I forget to set it to be shared to the external customer and now the customer cannot see the comment but I know for a fact that I had made the comment.
It was better before when it defaulted to external. Now it is just an extra admin step that many agents forget to do.
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This is annoying the hell out of me and my team. Years of "muscle memory" when resolving tickets is now backwards and we're constantly resolving them accidentally with internal comments now, requiring extra time and effort to review them and send out additional user facing comments on those we mess up on.
There definitely needs to be a way to change this.
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I was wondering why I was looking like an idiot to my testing team. I was resolving issues and adding internal comments unknowingly. Atlassian should not make a change like this without calling it out in a big way and making sure we can alter the default.
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This is very frustrating. Is there an update on the fix?
I'm not sure how many companies want to 'add internal note' instead of replying to the customer when closing a ticket, but it seems like it would be a small minority.
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I think the majority of us have always wanted this to be configurable and the people that are now mad are experiencing the pain that other Atlassian customers had when public comments leaked unintentionally before this change. Both groups desire a way to configure it and in both cases it seems like it should be more obvious which type of comment you are writing.
Not sure if anyone watching here is not already watching the article where I posted on recommending Many More Much Smaller Steps to get this to a better place, but just in case the below workarounds help anyone only here, some things Admins can implement right now:
- You can turn off the notifications for when customer-visible status changes and when things are resolved in the project
- That way it is not confusing when agents are just transitioning things around and not publicly commenting (either by mistake from the new default or on purpose because they need to change the status without a proactive notification)
- I think it would be beneficial for all of these default notifications to be configurable by site admins as starting points for new projects too (customer-visible status changing and defaulting a canceled resolution to message the customer is not preferred)
- If you have a substantial amount of automation rules available in your limit, you can set up checks to look for comment visibility
- So you could check if internal = true and at-mention that person that wrote it to double-check it or showcase it in some way or even flip it to public if everything written matching certain criteria should be public
- You could have many agents work the requests from the portal side with transitions added there
- This one probably isn't feasible with how queues and dashboards are utilized, but just as an option for some subsets of agents
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This really is ridiculous. It really should be a setting instead of hard coded. The opt-out is a temporary fix for me.
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Hi all,
I am very aware that this is an inconvenience to you and would like to apologise for not rolling out this change with more notice.
To make this easier, we are going to let you opt-in to have the behaviour reverted for three months.
The goal is for this to give you more time to manage the change on your end. We will also review the feedback to see whether we will be able to create a flag that lets you set this behaviour within one of our settings pages. This is not something we currently plan on doing, but we will revise the decision before we make the call to revert the behaviour and will, of course, keep you informed.
Please read this Community post for more details or simply click here to sign up.
Once again, sorry for the inconvenience, we will make sure we handle these changes better next time, letting you know ahead of time.
Best regards,
Jehan Gonsalkorale
Principal Product Manager, Jira Service Management
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Sorry, I just realised I'd posted it in a private group. Here is the updated link.
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Why don't you just make it an option for the users to decide which way they want it to work ? - that's what all wants.
Just make a switch in the settings to allow us to change it around to our liking - and not just for 3 months time. (so we don't have to keep going back to change it)
What is keeping you from doing that ? - both camps will be happy to select and work whatever way they like - seems pretty straight forward to me.
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I guess Atlassian and Microsoft share the same playbook on introducing "new" features that are actually a step backwards and not forward.
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale LOL you read all of these comments and was like "na dawg, we don't care about what you guys want" Then you just lowered your shades and thought to your selves "deal with it".
Its literally harder, in every way, to implement an account toggle to keep the old method available and usable for 3 months than it would be to create an actual account toggle to allow us the option of choosing which default is selected on the popup window.. thats right, a simple default selection on a form element that can be changed with a user click.. or JS script that auto selects what you want as a user..
I mean really!? This is a forced business flow that Atlassian is making every single client conform to the way they want to do business.. and for what reason? none. You could let us make our own choice on this VERY VERY simple account configuration setting.. Why? why would you not allow us to make our own choices.. what do you know that we don't? what else is coming?
such a joke
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@Jehan Gonsalkorale You reply fast and even apologize for a poor UX when you post a bad link but you don't want to talk when you upset so many with a very poor UX decision that impacts everyone's workflow and costs your customers time and money? Instead create a post elsewhere. Good to know you read all these comments.
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First of all - this is not an "inconvenience", it's completely ridiculous workflow. And it certainly seems like with the word choice, you're trying to piss everyone off. Which I assume you are not, but that's definitely how it comes across.
Secondly - I can UNDERSTAND maybe making comments default to "internal". But the RESOLVE should default to TELLING THE SUBMITTER! If it doesn't then you have:
Which is beyond stupid.
In addition it has defaulted to public for decades. And defaulting to not communicating is NOT Intuitive for anyone.
And finally it sounds like someone at atlassian had a visit from the "Good idea fairy".
Geff
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Looking through this, Atlassian (and @Jehan Gonsalkorale ) are in a damned if they do, and damned if they don't situation.
We're all asking for the wrong solution to this problem. The issue is that asking for any default for internal or external comments is short sighted. People will have developed a muscle memory to do it one way or the other, and any change to the default (either way) will screw this this muscle memory, and there will be upset users.
The only change that I can see where Atlassian does not end up with egg on their face is the ability to add both internal and external comments at the same time. Display both fields at once, and highlight the internal one with the same yellow as shown when viewing comments, so it is intuitive about what is public and what is internal. Nobody's muscle memory will be screwed with. I doubt they will do this any time soon, as it would mess with automations, workflows and a bunch of other code that assumes only one comment in a transition.
As Henry Ford once said, "If I had asked the people what they wanted, they would have said stronger horses". In this case the majority of the people asked for stronger horses (i.e. default to internal) and that is what Atlassian delivered. Hopefully they can apply a little more creativity in building what we actually need.
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Or just allow each tenant to choose their own settings - similar to how in Edge/Chrome you can change the order of the tabs in a window, allow administrators the ability to change the order of their comment 'tabs'.
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Are there any improvements expected soon regarding this, because internal comments are completely useless for us when it comes to solving problems and a lot of errors occur when users don't get a solution
Thanks
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