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Thanks much for the acknowledgement and comment @John Funk , the status field was a change that we could live with,
the confusion that is getting created between what is a Jira Software Space vs what is a Confluence Space vs what is a Jira Projects which is being used for goals i believe is overwhelming for many of the non technical users - i have tried to champion the use of Jira within my company , but with this dizzying pace of user experience changes and terminology changes is causing distrust of the platform itself for many of my endusers.
If jira wanted to create a grouping of different projects and products like confluence a team or workspace user may want to align together they could have created a additional layer of "Spaces" at parent level grouping for Jira Software projects and Confluence spaces and any other atlassian products in use at that "Spaces" - Workspace level , which would have atleast made sense for me to convey to the end users how to read this.
The abrupt forced change of Jira Software "Projects" - "Spaces" is so very confusing and has been causing enormous distrust among users creating pain for anyone who is looking to promote Jira usage in large corporations
I stated the confusion would arise when it was proposed !
I maintain that these changes are AI driven decisions and not being human sanitised before implementation !
quite possible.. just that we cant be the testers of such experiments :(
Those changes have been considered for a long time. Look through the forum and you’ll see how much confusion the term Project has caused over the years. It was just really hard to find another name.
almost every other agile management systems still continue to use Projects in a meaningful way, as i mentioned elsewhere if a different layer of grouping is needed , one could have very well went with terminology and layer above projects like "Workspace", "TeamSpace", ProjectSpace, and let the existing projects remain without being touched so that exisiting users and workflows would have a smoother way to adopt to those.
May be add additional layers like BusinessUnit, WorkGroup, BusinessSpace, there are Six Sigma and Scaled Agile common terminologies that Atlassian could have referred back to change to if at all standardization and opening up for more industries was the intent.
None of that appeared to have happened.
Its not just this Projects - Space confusion , this creates so much confusion in large scale projects and set workflows and constantly is making end users to learn new navigation and terminologies at the whims of Atlassian is detrimental to say the least. Teams and projects would like to focus on their own business value products and certainly wont enjoy a bloated tracking software getting in their way.
Hi @Shanmuga Narayanan Pitchaipillai
I want to make sure you've seen and signed up for the research study about the UI experience. It's an online survey and will go directly to the team responsible for design. I think it would be great for your thoughts on this to be documented and shared directly with that team, versus just on the Community.
Thank you for your feedback and consideration!
@Suzie Ahlers , thanks much for the acknowledgement and guidance, will provide the same feedback in the research study area as suggested above. So far as a power user and who wanted to recommend atlassian products within our organization for better agile management , the dizzying pace of structure changes and so narrowed interpretation has essentially at this point broken the trust of stability and reliability of the platform for long term continuity of teams to manage their workloads using atlassian jira products.
Hi Shanmuga, I have to say the navigation interface is a complete disaster for frequent screen changes, and a massive step backwards for heavy users, takes up more real estate and disrupts the flow of your work.
I have no idea as to how this was considered a benefit to users over and above many older outstanding feature requests in cloud.
I ended up ignoring the new menu and setting up a collection of most frequently used screens in my browser which I can open and flick between as I need. I use the menu as a last resort only.
Thank for raising,
Well, it's not only UI changing, but usually, Atlassian provides new feature that only cover 80% of a use case. (introduction of Teams and not being able to use them in JQL or the email log - just to mention two of them)
The longer I have to work with Atlassian cloud products, the more I am against cloud solutions in general. I hate to be alpha tester - and having to pay for it.
100% agreed , broken things are everywhere at this point .
I dont see the point of Advanced Roadmaps changing to Plans , - unusable , requires so much query creation to even get basic useful view it goes against the usability of the product
Teams , yes, i dont see the point of it, when its extension is limited to old goals alone and now misplaced Team projects - its an orphan hanging there not knowing what its purpose any more now.
the marketplace apps management - the whole navigation is so much confusing and counter intuitive that it needs a matrix to know where is what
its frustrating , at a corporate level, we want to focus on developing products that add value to our business interests, if i have to ask my users to learn a new navigation and terminology every quarter or every month for a work item tracking tool.. its a colossal waste of time and i as a admin who would recommend this tool would be ridiculed max.
I worked actively with Data Center and after migration to Cloud I noticed that atlassian-hosted Jira works almost 50% slower than self hosted solution on a cheap AWS server. In addition we have downtimes, not often, but they happen. We are on the other side of the globe and they prefer not to update Jira during USA working hours, so we get them when it is night in USA.
Things 'go missing' all the time with what seems like continuous interface changes and tweaks. It's extremely embarrassing as an administrator to have to apologize for delays since I have look for items in new locations on a regular basis. To combat this, I have created a list of URL shortcuts to find things that I reference frequently since navigating to them has become futile.
The 'new features' announcements are also now something I dread. I am always left to wonder...
I have been administering Jira since 2012. I long for Jira Server to make a come back. It was a time when we could control what and when the features would be upgraded, and on a regular cadence. I have tried to participate in as many evaluations and feedback sessions. However, there are fewer admins than end users. We aren't being heard. PERIOD.
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