I agree, when I add a start and end date and look in the new calendar view, it only shows the card in the due date position. And if the dates span more than 1 day, it pops it up into the 'All day' banner... even if it's not all day. This makes it tricky to plan your day as you can't see if any tasks clash.
An unfortunately when I add a task with a date, it doesn't show up in either the calendar view or timeline. It shows up in my iCal though which is odd.
For phase 1 it's great, it just needs some work to make it useable for lots of projects... I also noticed that Sunday and Monday are greyed out when it should be Saturday and Sunday, being the weekend. So I suspect this is a v1.1 and we have a few updates coming (hopefully).
@Mariano Tello Nocetti it did disappear. I also had a separate "Start Date" button in the "Add to Card" list, but it's now gone.
The start date functionality is still there, but Trello has now hidden it.
It's in the dialog box launched by the "Due Date" button.
Trello, it's bad enough that you're messing around with the interface after Beta. C'mon.
But worse, you made it worse. *DO NOT HIDE THE START DATE IN THE DUE DATE INTERFACE.* This is not how I think of it, it is not how I'll use it, it's adding more work/clicks, it's not transparent, and it's counter-intuitive. It's just bad.
It makes no more sense than if you hid the Attachment function behind the Checklist button.
Start Dates are also not working correctly. Clicking on a card's start date launches the "Change Due Date" dialog box which, as noted above, it shouldn't be but that's where it is. The problem now is that the cursor defaults to the *Due Date.*
So when you click on the Start Date to change the Start Date, you're actually posed to edit the Due Date.
Not good. This function was definitely released before they had tested it. I'm not a fan of being a beta tester for software I'm evaluating.
I would also like to have this in the calendar view. Is that any plan to release this feature. It's tough to see what's currently being worked on when the card only shows up on it's due date. Ideally it would show the full lifecycle of the card during the time it's being processed. Would love to have the ability to set date ranges on the card dates!
You can add start and end dates with the Custom Fields Power-Up for Trello: https://blog.trello.com/trello-custom-fields but those won't integrate as dates within your calendar. There's currently not a way to do that, only a due date.
You could intrgrate a gantt chart to track start and end dates: https://blog.trello.com/automate-gantt-chart-project-roadmap-elegantt-trello
I just started updating my system to incorporate Start Dates. Maybe too soon!
Trello does not yet offer to sort lists by Start Date. This should be recognized as a mistake and be fixed. Hopefully this is something they just overlooked in the rollout and will fix shortly.
I'm also noting the UI for editing the Start Date is different than for Due Dates in inexplicable, counter-intuitive and nonsensical ways. For example, the Due Date windows shows the value both in a calendar view and also in Date and Time fields. The Start Date only uses the calendar view. They are both date fields and they should work the same way.
Sorting by Start Date - I'll add as a feature request.
Adding Time to Start Date I'll add as well, but product decision was to not add this. This thread is super long and pretty old (and forum software doesn't deal with long posts well)... I'd be happy to discuss in a new topic if you want to add one if you find other things too.
Thanks, @Michael Pryor . Appreciate the response.
Without being able to sort by Start Date, for those of us still in the free version, there is no systemic way to manipulate cards by Start Dates. The only use to be made of them is for me to look at each card's start date and then manually sort or move them. There is no automation whatsoever that I can see. That's a shame.
I understand there may be some automation using Start Dates in the Calendar and Timeline Views available in Business Class. But I'm not there yet.
The one function needed before I moved our company team to Trello was Start Dates. I had hoped to evaluate it in my own personal boards over the long term (not just the short-term trial period that's offered). But instead it appears I would have to engage in a separate evaluation process that I just can't prioritize now.
I hope you can get to your development team my feedback. By failing to provide for a sort by Start Date function, they have placed a significant hurdle in ramping-up our team to a Business Class subscription.
My odd solution to having cards show up on the calendar while I'm working on a project is to list the due date as the start date. For the due date, I list the next day I plan on working on the task on the card. So, if I'm going to next work on a project on Friday the 26th, I put a due date of the 26th on card. This way the card shows up within Home as "up next" and I know that I need to work on this task during the day.
Since the free version doesn't allow you to attach due dates to items on the checklist or show both the start and due dates on the calendar power-up, this is my way of getting around these constraints.
I can still see my due date (which shows up as the start date). Each time I work on a project, I change the due date to the next time I plan on working on the it. I do this so I get a prompt each day that I need to work on a project. And since the card shows the start date (really my due date), I stay on track with what I need to get done each day.
@Susan McCarthy that's exactly what I've been doing. And it's got serious problems: by repurposing Due Dates as fake start dates, my system can't be trusted for *real* due dates, and that information has to be stored somewhere else (or worse, remembered). It also falsely suggests there is only *one* day in which the work can be done, which for my work is usually not true.
It's a serious limitation to have a personal information manager which I know is giving me false and unreliable information that can't be trusted. That's why I've been waiting (and agitating!) for true Start Dates.
The importance in a system having both Start Dates and Due Dates was well-established decades ago in David Allen's Getting Things Done (GTD) system. I don't know why personal information platform designers were so adamant in ignoring it.
So very glad to see Start Dates!
@Jeff Bean I've just started using Trello so I haven't hit any snafus with listing a due date as the start date. (Obviously I was hoping that I could see the time span between true start and true due date, which is how I ended up here.)
I have a bunch of "small" projects that I'm working on and daily changing the due date to the next day I need to work on the project will tell me what I need to work on for current day. It's not ideal as I can't look two or three days in advance and know everything that I need to do on those days.
If Trello doesn't help me track what I want it to in the way I need it to, I'll go back to pen and paper.
@Susan McCarthy Yes, that's very similar to what I do and need. You don't want projects cluttering up your mind and workspace when they're not ready to be worked on, and you need to have them in your view before they're due. I've made-do, as you have, by jerry-rigging Due Dates, by a system of labels and lists. But it's all been sub-optimal workarounds. It's why Start Dates have been necessary.
My projects aren't complex per se, but they are very numerous and diverse, and there's no way I could even think of going back to pen and paper.
I've been using Trello just personally, and when they work through the Start Date issues (like implementing the ability to sort Lists by it) I should be well on my way to implementing this across our team. I recall that the features of the Business Class would be needed for that. I'm hoping Trello sorts these issues out soon so I can start paying them cash money!
Not showing for me either. My Change Due Date screen doesn't look anything like the screenshot @Lewis Melville shows and certainly doesn't include a Start Date or an "Add Start Date" link. That's my experience on both the Windows and the iPhone apps. Can anyone explain what's going on? Some limited-release? A Beta?
We are currently on the Business Class 14 day trial, not sure if this functionality is directly related to that as I didn't look for start dates before we upgraded. we also use custom fields for adding additional date options. https://help.trello.com/article/1067-using-the-custom-fields-power-up
@Jason Qin thanks, I see it now, too. I'm on the Free plan as well. It's showing in my Windows app (Version 2.11.10), in the web version (Chrome Windows), but not on my iPhone (Version 2021.2.3).
I'm pleased to see that the Start Date shows on the card. That was one of the problems with the workaround using a custom field to jam a start date.
This looks good already. Looking forward to seeing it on the iPhone and putting it through its paces!
I am also on board with this, the only thing that prevents me from using Asana at the moment is, that they do not have an offline solution. However, the chance, that I will leave Trello sooner or later simply for the lack of this one but essential feature, is pretty high...
I'm new to Trello (and loving it, incidentally), and for meetings or tasks that must be handled over several days, the best I have been able to do is create cards for each day of the meeting or conference so that they'll appear on the calendar and always appear on my "today" list. The only problem is that this means a long list of cards in the 'coming up' or 'this week' lists, which just feels like clutter. The solution of a 'start date' would really help, as would a visible date range.
... And intuitively, this stuff just doesn't feel like a really hard thing to add, but then I'm not a programmer, so I'm not going to judge.
I need start dates. Not just in calendar view, but on the card as displayed in lists as well. A custom field is not a solution because it doesn't show unless you open the card.
This has been the single most influential factor that keeps me from using Trello in more contexts, from implementing it in my teams, and from choosing a paid subscription. (I'm paying a subscription to Smartsheet mainly because Trello lacks this functionality.)
In short, if Trello had start dates, I'd pay money for it.
Start dates are an essential function of any GTD system.
Personally, I'm positively gobsmacked that so many people still choose to organize their work according to "when I've got to get it done" instead of "how soon can I do it?" I can promise you I would not hire such a person. (Hmmm, should add that to my interview checklist ...)
FYI Jeff, if you're really trying to jam this workflow into Trello (as I am), you can choose to display a Custom Field on the "front" of a card (Board menu > Power-Ups > Custom Fields > Edit Power-Up Settings > [your field] > check "Show field on front of card"). Although, this solution is imperfect in its own way, because native Due Dates show on the left of the card, and the custom field Start Date shows on the right of the card (not chronological order). Of course I can read the labels for each date, but from a UI perspective, I constantly expect the earlier date (Start Date) to be on the left.
In the end, I appreciate the flexibility of the Power-up system, but I am also annoyed when it is proposed as the only solution to simple productivity features like... dates for when things happen. Sometimes it feels like being told to program my own application.
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