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Will Atlassian Access work for B2B Guest users in our Azure AD tenant?

Current situation:

We are using the following cloud products: Confluence, Jira Software and Bitbucket. We distinguish two types of users in these products: 1) workers from our own company (registered with a company email addresses) and 2) external users, such as business partners/suppliers (who are registered with their external business email address).

What we hope to achieve:

We would like to use AA to enable SSO, automated user (de)provisioning, and more advanced security policies. We want this two work for all our current users (internal and external).

Questions:

  • Will user provisioning and SSO authentication also work for the B2B Guest users in our IDP? Since:
    • The UPN of a B2B Guest users does not contain our company domain. Instead the UPN will end on "@<companydomain>.onmicrosoft.com", which is a domain we obviously cannot verify.
    • The B2B Guest user can still be identified based on their external business email address, since it is registered as the email address in their Azure AD record. However, we cannot verify the company domain of our business partners/suppliers on which their email address is based.
  • If yes, will AA recognise the existing external users in our cloud products based on their external email address?
  • Any other recommendations or considerations from community members who have set this up successfully?
  • Slightly off-topic: Is it possible to have a subset of users login with SSO, while another group of users still uses their local user credentials (application-side).

Thanks for your help.

 

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Dave Meyer Atlassian Team Jan 03, 2022

Hi @Koen Bins ,

Unfortunately this will not work. We don't currently support SSO for users with Atlassian account email addresses on domains that you cannot verify.

We recognize users based on the email address of their Atlassian account. If that email address has a domain that has been claimed by an organization, then we apply the SSO configuration for that user based on the organization.

Improvements to security for external users is something we're actively working on.

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Is it possible to have a subset of users login with SSO, while another group of users still uses their local user credentials (application-side)

Yes, you can set this up with authentication policies for your organization.

Hi @Dave Meyer  thanks for your reply.

A follow-up question to my 2nd question: If we configure one group of users with SSO, is it possible to enforce SSO for that group (not allowing application-side logins), while still allowing application-side logins for the other group (primarily consisting of external users)?

Dave Meyer Atlassian Team Jan 04, 2022

Hey @Koen Bins 

Yes, you can set up different authentication policies for internal users (i.e. "managed accounts" or accounts with an email address on a domain you have claimed). External users (users with accounts with an email address on a domain you cannot claim) can still be granted access to your Jira/Confluence instance, but you won't be able to set any kind of login requirements for them.

You can't quite assume that they are purely using an email/password login from Atlassian, because there is the potential scenario that another organization has claimed their domain and enforces its own SSO when they log into their account (for example, if you have consultants working with you. They might have access to your Jira under their @consultant.com email address, but the consulting company enforces SSO on all @consultant.com accounts)

So a scenario you could have is:

1. Authentication Policy A (SSO enforced) for most of your internal users

2. Authentication Policy B (no SSO enabled) for low risk internal users or bots

3. External users that have been invited to your Jira/Confluence but do not fall under your authentication policies.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Dave

Thank you.

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Darryl Lee Community Leader Aug 05, 2022

I realize this is an old topic, but this is precisely what we would like to do as well.

A few years back @Radoslaw Cichocki _Deviniti_ made this video with Tomasz Onyszko from Predica that talks about doing this with on-prem Jira:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2OZuIDJeNw

Radoslaw - have you and your team (and maybe Predica) thought about or talked with Atlassian about doing this in the Cloud with Access?

Hi @Darryl Lee

So you're the one who has actually watched it! :D
Good to meet you.

I haven't talked to Atlassian about it, I changed my role at Deviniti a while back and now I'm more on the Atlassian Marketplace apps side of things and haven't followed advancements in the SSO area for a while.

If this hasn't been addressed already, you can file a feature request with Atlassian and ask other admins to vote for it if they also need it. Probably somewhere out there there is a feature request for it already.

From all the people in my circle only @Szymon Szerewicz from Deviniti can have a solution. If he does not, very likely it can't be done. Szymon, do we have a solution for the Cloud hosting?

Regards,
Radek

The guest users in our Azure are given a new email, like the example below.

first.last@gmail.com -> first.last_gmail.com#EXT#@blank.onmicrosoft.com

 

Is there a way to claim that blank.onmicrosoft.com since it is appended by our azure? Then any and all guests in our azure organization would be eligible?

Unfortunately not. Since you do not own blank.onmicrosoft.com (Microsoft does) you cannot claim it.

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