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Atlassian Team 2021 Q+A with Irvin Hoogland and Erik Vandermeijde

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Hello Community!

Irvin and Erik just gave a talk, Migrating in a highly regulated environment: de Volksbank’s move to the cloud, at Team 2021. 

In this talk, listeners learned how and why de Volksbank decided to make the move to cloud. From its founding in 1817 to preparing for the future on cloud, they walked attendees through all aspects of migrating within a highly regulated environment. Now you can ask them even more about how to prepare, choose a migration strategy, and manage the project along the way!

Irvin and Erik will be hanging out on Community until next Tuesday, May 4th, to answer all the questions you have for them about this talk! And if you don't have any questions, feel free to drop your biggest takeaway from their session in the comments below.



Could you share in your story more info about integrations with in-house app and Atlassian product, and after migration challenges? 

And I am interested with compliance situation, how much work did you figure out with documentation side ?

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Erica Larson Community Leader Apr 28, 2021

Can you expand more on who you included on your migration team?  You mentioned app engineers, security, network, etc. Did you have a product manager or project manager leading the effort?

Thanks for the insight!

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@Gonchik Tsymzhitov at Volksbank we had/have a situation were Jira on-prem is the IdP for various apps like Confluence and Bitbucket, but also SonarQube and Jenkins among others.

We moved Jira (and Confluence) to the Cloud and use Atlassian Access to connect to Azure AD as the new IdP, but we still have Bitbucket, Jenkins and SonarQube left on-prem. To give us time to connect these on-prem apps to Azure AD one by one, but at the same time support the business to start working with Cloud we left Jira on-prem in read only mode to function as an IdP to these on-prem apps for now. 

Getting compliance done took around 6 months of preparation and at some point it was still a business decision to 'take the leap' by focussing on the future, because of the reasons mentioned in the talk. And even now we're fully live in the cloud we still get questions. So be prepared to keep explaining how you are compliant and why you chose to go to the cloud. 

@Erica Larson yes, Erik is the PO and I took the project manager role. We didn't include network & security from the start because we underestimated the Bitbucket Server <> Jira Cloud application link connection within the Volksbank network. It's something we'd advise anyone who wants to connect cloud apps to on-prem apps in a complex and highly secure network. Not including the network & security guys in your project team from the start resulted in (unneeded) delays, because it took time to get them committed to our migration with all their other daily work they had to do. 

Of course this goes for every specialist you need - network, security, compliance or user management; add them to your team from the start to have them committed to a successful migration instead of flying them in when - not if - you bump into any obstacle you need them to you help you with.

Hope this helps!

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Hi @Irvin Hoogland , 

Thank you for your clarification and sharing info :) 

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