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Create same name pages within a space

A page name should be just another attribute. It really is that simple.

Pages already have unique ids that can be used in the URL, in fact, we only share those URLs anyway, in order to prevent links breaking when the title changes.

So why is it so difficult to use uniqueIds in URLs, and append the page name if you really want to?

Something along the lines of amazon URLs:

https://www.amazon.de/Atlassian-Confluence-5-Essentials-English-ebook/dp/B00DAZUTBW/

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00DAZUTBW/

Those two links are taking you to the same page.

Right now the Confluence URLs is https://<confluence>/display/<space>/<page-name>
And the share URL is https://<confluence>/x/<page-id>

Why not use https://<confluence>/display/<space>/<page-id>/<page-name> for the display URL and solve everyones problems?

Is this really that hard to do?

2 answers

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Laurens_Coppens Community Leader Oct 31, 2019

Hi Stojadinovicp,

 

This has been asked numerous times before:

https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Confluence-questions/Create-multiple-pages-with-the-same-name-within-a-space/qaq-p/138708

https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Confluence-Cloud-questions/Pages-with-same-name-in-space/qaq-p/443236

 

Its not possible, you can dig deeper in the threads as to why its technically not possible.

 

Regards,

Laurens

Also the feature requests https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-2524 that's closed, with explanations from the Confluence product team

@Laurens_Coppens: Both of those have comments closed. This, firstly, is ridiculous. Things change, technologies change, solutions may appear. Shutting the door like that is rather disrespectful to the users.

Also, how is it not possible when there is a pluging for it: https://marketplace.atlassian.com/apps/1219390/duplicate-page-titles-same-page-titles Thus, clearly, it is possible.

 

 @Monique_Khairuliana I don't understand your comment? I also disagree with the given explanation.

Maybe more effort should be focused on satisfying customers, rather than shutting them up. Just a thought...

Laurens_Coppens Community Leader Nov 06, 2019

@Monique_Khairuliana  thanks for adding the link to the feature request

@stojadinovicp 

I understand your frustration, i've had the same one in the past, but i think the explanation in the feature request is clear and the decision has been made and we need to accept this.

I have always used a work around by adding a prefix or suffix and this always came in handy when using the search.

You don't want to find 50 pages with the title "budget" without any further details.

And sometimes you just need to break it up in multiple spaces instead of just all in one.

Its all about content management using the features embedded in the product you or your company has chosen.

 

I don't agree with the statement, it is possible because a plugin vendor has done it.

Addons like that can have impact on standard macros, can do ad hoc rewrites when loading te page causing degraded performance, ...

The fact that atlassian chose not to implement a feature with that many votes and a lifetime of multiple years means its not easy to implement and has impact on to many levels.

Like Nic_Brough__Adaptavist_ likes this

"You don't want to find 50 pages with the title "budget" without any further details." - There's already space name and creation time, as well as an excerpt, listed - so adding page parent is no big deal.

The only impact comes from depending on the URL or page name, which is the root mistake that should be fixed regardless of this request. There already is such a thing as the page id - the share link. It is unique per page and should be the only thing that any macro depends on.

The page name should be treated as just another attribute.

That's a very bad architecture, otherwise.

Something not really mentioned in the threads linked by Laurens is the Marketplace app Duplicate Page Titles (Same Page Titles) by venITure which I would expect to solve your problem. :)

Why would anyone waste money on something that should be free and part of the framework?

I'm not sure if I would agree with calling something a waste of money when it obviously isn't part of the framework and solves your problem, regardless of your own personal expectations and wishes. I don't think the app is expensive and if you're not sure about whether it solves your problem you can always make use of a trial first.

In general having an ecosystem that allows you to get more functionality and solve problems that are not / can not be solved by Atlassian should be seen as a very positive thing, not a bad thing. :)

I can only keep repeating myself: it's a waste money on something that should be part of the framework.

Well, I'm glad that you don't think $3000 is expensive, but feel free to convince my managers to pay for it. (and that's even before the fact that the app is not even available for our Data Center deployment)

Plus, obviously the problem is much deeper than just page names, which means this app might break something. @Laurens_Coppens hinted as much.

Thus, payed app is not an option.

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