Issues with Confiforms rule logic

[Simon Larson]

Hi, we're having some issues with the logic behind our field definition rules. To troubleshoot this, we created a new basic Confiform with simply a text field and a hidden value. There is also a rule that sets the value of the hidden field if the text field is empty. This is the configuration of the rule:

Problem is, the condition ALWAYS triggers, no matter the input. This is the form data after our testing:

Why is the upper entry also triggering the rule condition? I tried negating the expression to !userinput:[empty] but then it NEVER triggers.

Thankful for any response.

[Alex Medved _ConfiForms_ · Accepted solution]

Hi

You have set this rule to trigger on a change in “hiddenvalue” field

Is that what you want? Who changes the value in that field? Do you have some other rule that does that?

Alex

[Simon Larson]

Hi Alex, no we want to track userinput. If userinput is left empty, and only then, we want to set the hidden value to 123.This was one version of all we tried so maybe a bad example to use a screenshot from.

Changing the field name to userinput, or leaving it empty, gives the same result

[Alex Medved _ConfiForms_]

So, do you have any reset rules or rules to set other values when the userinput field dis NOT empty?

Here is what happens - as you rule is not set to execute ONLY on the user's action it does execute on form load as well. When the form loads I assume the userinput field is empty by default and this is when the hiddenvalue field get's it's value

Alex

[Simon Larson]

No other rules/reset rules.

That makes a lot of sense. The userinput field is empty by default. Never thought it would trigger on page load. Is there a way to set it up to trigger only once you submit the form?

[Alex Medved _ConfiForms_]

Yes, of course - set it to "Execute only on user action".

But in your case I would implement an IFTTT macro to update the field if the userinput is empty

So it will run on "post submit"

[Simon Larson]

Will try this, thank you Alex