Differencs between Single-Site and multiple site in cloud

[tetralog systems AG]

Hello,

we are currently running Jira and confluence on our own premises and will migrate both to cloud soon. Before doing so, there is the decision to make whether we want to have both on one site in the cloud or have multiple sites, one for each application. 

Neither the support at atlassian nor the interwebs could show me what the main difference between the two models is. 

If i have both applications on one site, will ther be some kind of "landing page" where i select if i want to open jira or confluence? do they both have different subdomain names? 

I would like to get an understanding what this would in the end look like for the everyday user. Can someone enlighten me and help me choose what approach i should take?

Thanks and best

[Jens Schumacher - Released_so]

You want Confluence and Jira on a single site.

You will be able to navigate between them using the apps menu (see picture below). But more importantly, features to link between Confluence and Jira will automatically be available. 

You would use multiple sites if you have different businesses or units that operate independently of each other. Each site would then have their own Confluence, Jira... 

There is also the Atlassian Start screen which gives you an overview of all Atlassian applications and pages, issues etc that you've recently worked on. 

Hope this helps. 

Jens

[tetralog systems AG]

Yes, that helps a lot. thanks. 

I will take the one site approach then.

Cheers

[Rilwan Ahmed]

Hi @tetralog systems AG ,

If i have both applications on one site, will there be some kind of "landing page" where i select if i want to open jira or confluence? do they both have different subdomain names? 

-- Your URL will be like below for jira and confluence.
https://XXXXX.atlassian.net/wiki/home
https://XXXXX.atlassian.net/jira/your-work

Administrating is easier if done in one organization. That way you only need to administer your domains, users and groups in one place and not multiple.

Incase if you want to change the URLs, you can refer to this link
https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Atlassian-Access-articles/Changing-the-URL-of-Jira-Confluence-Cloud-site/ba-p/1901683

[tetralog systems AG]

Hello,

thanks for the clearificytion. 

Our userbase of confluence and jira, that we run on our own premises, slightly differs. Means: we have  45 Jira users, and 46 confluence users. but the userbase is different for both. Some users use both applikations, some exist only in confluence and some only in jira. If i have just one userbase in the one-site cloud setup, that would be like ~70 users overall, some of them using only confluence, some of them jira and some both. 

Since we want to go for the 50 user tier in the cloud, will this work? Or do we have to aim for the 51-100 user tier for that to work?

Thanks already

[Rilwan Ahmed]

Hi @tetralog systems AG ,

If you go to https://admin.atlassian.com/, you can manage users and product for each application. 

Regarding license, I would suggest you to contact Atlassian Support directly in https://support.atlassian.com/contact/#/

[Jens Schumacher - Released_so]

@tetralog systems AG Cloud does not have tiers like Server does. You will be charged for the number of users who have access to Confluence or Jira. 

[tetralog systems AG]

I played a bit around with the atlassian pricing tool for cloud and came to the following results: if i pay monthly, which is way more expensive then yearly, i have like 8100 $ for 12 months and 50 User, while i have only 6800$ if i pay yearly. 

And when i try diffetnr numbers for annual payment i come to the conclusion, that we have a tier up to50 users, and then one from 51 up to 100 users. 

So, aiming for the annual payment, i really would like to have the annual 50 user tier. Back to my original question, i need 70 users overall, spread accross confuence 45 users and jira 46 users. I do not thing i am the only one with this question, and i do not hope i have to buy the 51-100 annual tier for my 45 confluence and 46 Jira users. 

Any suggestions?

[Jens Schumacher - Released_so]

If the number of users with access to either Confluence or Jira does not exceed the 50 users, you can go with a 26 - 50 user license for each product. 

If you don't expect to exceed the 50 users, I would definitely go with the yearly pricing, otherwise it might be worth sticking with monthly as it will be quite a jump if you exceed the user limit and get bumped into the next tier. 

[tetralog systems AG]

As someone mentioned before, if i go for the sine-site approach for both our applications, we have one user management for all our atlassian user, wich will be around 70. So, i can spread them to have like 45 for one applikatin and 46 for the other, staying in the 26-50 user tier for each application although there are ~70 cloud users overall, is that right?

[Rick Westbrock]

The key thing to remember is that Jira and Confluence user licenses are completely separate so there is no need to worry about the "overall cloud users" count at all. For example there is no cost difference between the two scenarios below:

1. 45 Jira users and 46 completely different Confluence users

2. 45 Jira user and 46 Confluence users where 45 of those are the same users in Jira plus one additional user

Just keep in mind as someone mentioned previously that the Cloud tier pricing is per user so 49 Jira users will cost more than 26 Jira users.