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new (and bad) cross project release creation in Porfolio 3.1

tùng ơi

i'm trying Portfolio 3.1 on Jira 8.0.2

as per instruction here How to create a cross-project release here for Portfolio 3.1 on Jira Server:

Go to your plan via Portfolio (in header) > View Portfolio > click your plan.
Click the Releases tab to display the releases section below the timeline.
Click + Create release.
Give the cross-project release a name.
Select Cross-project release for the release type.
Click the project menu, then select the projects that will be sharing the release.

"When you create a cross-project release and commit it to Jira, the release will be transformed into a regular release in each of the Jira projects that are part of the cross-project release." - as instructed in the link above."

I check with my Portfolio 3.1 on Jira 8 and it's totally different (in the bad way) and there's nothing like instruction above. then I check with Portfolio 2.23.0 on Jira 7 and it turns out that the instruction above (for Portfolio 3.1) actually the same feature as Portfolio 2.23.0 on Jira 7. it means that the instruction above just works for Portfolio 2.23.0 , not for Portfolio 3.1.

I find that funtion as intruction and works with Portfolio 2.23 is perfect, and the real function of Portfolio 3.1 is terrible as detailed below:

- there is a straight link to Cross-project releases. not the general link to create release and then you have the option to choose the Cross-project releases type (as guided)

- the most terrible thing (not as instructed, not as Portfolio 2.23) is "When you create a cross-project release and commit it to Jira, the release will be transformed into a regular release in each of the Jira projects that are part of the cross-project release." - as instructed in the link above". Thing in 3.1 is different. You cannot create CPR on its own. you have to create release in each specific projects in advance, and then you have choose each project-specific release to the CPR you are creating. even you cannot creat CPR if you don't have project-specific release in advance.

the good logic of CPR is exacly like instructed "When you create a cross-project release and commit it to Jira, the release will be transformed into a regular release in each of the Jira projects that are part of the cross-project release."

but thing in 3.1 is opposite - up side down - (in the bad way - ): you have to manually create project specific releases (for example 100 times for 100 projects) and then you go to creating CPR and manually add 100 project specific releases to that RPC. that's terrible.

is there anything that i'm wrong here?

could any one please help me with information on this?

regards,

Comments

tùng ơi

"New cross-project release

Use cross-project releases to group multiple releases across different Jira projects. This helps you organize and align the dates of related releases."

for Portfolio 3.0, CPR is used only for grouping existing release already created manually from each project.

it's no long as useful as version 2.26 and before when you can create a CPR and it will automatically add releases to all projects that are included in that CPR.

samrobertsofficial

Hi @tùng ơi I can definitely see your passion about this topic. We definitely want to make it easier to create multiple releases at once (like it was before). Portfolio for Jira should help you do all your planning at scale, and in this case our solution wasn't perfect. When you create CPR's in your Portfolio plan do you want to create 1 for every single project that is included in the plan, or only some of them? I'll make sure I capture this feedback and add it to our backlog.

I know this is not an ideal solution but: in the meantime one workaround you can do is disable the new experience, create the cprs the old way, then turn it on again, and use it this way.

tùng ơi

hi @samrobertsofficial

thank for your prompt reply. i'm quite frustrated with this "dowgraded feature" in new version of Portfolio 3.0. new feature should be better, not worse. in this topic, the feature of the old version is much better.

our user case is like this:

- we are not a software company so actually we do not have "software version/ release". but your design of Jira Software is flexible enough (i like it alot) and we can re-purpose so many software feature for business operation purposes in my company. in this case, we use version and release to manage monthly plan & reports - version as plan at the beginning of the month, and release as a report at the end of the month.

- for monthly plans and reports, we just have fixed 12 months of the year, for all the departments, all the projects, all the Portfolio plan. that why we need to create 12 CPRs to represent 12 months of the year. and they will be applied to all projects in Jira. and in the old Portfolio version, it's supposed that it will automatically create project-specific plans and they are aligned/ included in the corresponding monthly CPR.

about your work around

i don't know how to disable the new CPR. where to disable/ enable it?

or what you means is that disabling the whole new portfolio improved planning interface (switch to old-and-frustrated automatic scheduling)? and it will bring back the old CPR feature?

and then add CPR the old ways. and then switch back to improved planning interface?

samrobertsofficial

I understand the old way of doing it is more useful for you. We need to make it easy to create new releases in bulk, not just add existing ones to a plan.

Yes the workaround is the second thing you suggested. Disable new planning experience in the plan, create the CPR in the old interface, then enable it again.

tùng ơi

thanks @samrobertsofficial for your details.

i've tried the work around you mentioned and it works. at least i can put in into action now for assessment of this feature.

i do hope that the coming version of Portfolio can bring back the old - good CPRs.

btw, can i ask something more? when we work around like that (swtich to old interface to create CPR and then switch back to new interface to work), are there any difference/ effects to CPRs and linked project-specific releases?

and one more thing, what will happen, what is relationship between CPR and linked project-specific releases. for example:

- if i release the CPR, what will happen with linked project-specific releases? and are there any conditions from linked project-specific releases so that i can release the CPR

- if i release one project-specific release that's linked to a CPR, what will happen to the CPR and are there any conditions from the CPR so that i can release one/ all of the linked project-specific releases

i spent a lot of time search for atlassian document about that one more thing, but found no information about the the connection between CPR and project-specific releases. could you please help me on this or give me a instruction link for this?

thank you

Rhys Christian_7so9sa

Hey @tùng ơi ,

I'm a PM on Portfolio for Jira Server.

We've been designing a solution for implementing this feature to quickly create project releases when you create a CPR in Portfolio 3.0.

We'd be interested to have a quick call with you so we can validate whether our solution resolves your needs for this.
If you're interested in sharing your thoughts on our design can you please reach out to me at rchristian@atlassian.com?

Cheers,

Jordan Janis

Hi,

Just my two cents.... this is a MAJOR issue for us. In the past I would use the CPR functionality to create a CPR, include all projects in the plan, and then commit those to Jira. Our org has 50-odd teams over 30+ projects each with separate admins. This mechanism was the perfect way to ensure the same fixVersion was created in each project. Even if team were not using Portfolio for their planning (which is often the case, unfortunately).

With the new interface this it is no longer possible to include all projects in the CPR. This implies that someone would need to create a release for each of the 30-something projects. It essentially makes the feature useless for us since, if we're just going to create 30-odd releases, one in each project, we might as well do it directly in the project's Releases tab and not use Portfolio for this purpose at all.

I'd be happy to share my thoughts on this if you're interested.

Regards,

-jj

munish_arora

How is this solved? It doesn't show up in fix version and neither gets created as individual project release. earlier it used to happen by itself when committing.