Why doesn't the Backlog show the Estimate of all sub tasks?

For my stories in the Backlog (per sprint) that have estimates only on the Sub-Tasks there is no roll-up occurring on the display.  

It is fine if I view the Story itself, then it shows the summation of each sub-tasks original estimate.

Why is it not showing up in the Sprint yellow bubble or in the grey bubble along the Story row in the Backlog view?

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JIRA doesn't expect you to estimate on sub-tasks.

It's a bit of a weakness, but the problem is that there's no consistent way to handle estimates on sub-tasks.  Do you roll it up to parents?  What if there's an estimate on the parent - add, remove or ignore?  How does it change the sprint if you're adding estimates to subtasks?  Atlassian have simply not dealt with it because there's too many ways you might try to do it, and no way to code for all of them.

Isn't this a similar situation to Story estimates being rolled into the Epic?  How is that handled?

No, because you don't estimate Epics either, so the rolling up is a simple case.

Estimates of sub tasks are rolling up in parent, if user open detail of parent. My Question is why its not appearing in backlog / scrum board.

I already said why it doesn't roll up.

The stuff you see on parent issues is rolling up estimates and worklogs for plain JIRA users, not Software.

Hello, it seems to me pretty simple solution.

I see two major scenario to use:

  1. when you use subtask estimation:
    * if story doesn't have any subtask you can estimate story
    * when you create first subtask estimation of story (loged time, remaining time) transfer to subtask, and after that you cannot change story estimation because now it's calculated from subtasks
  2. when you don't use subtask estimation:
    * let it work like now

If on board we can confugure this kind of behaviour, it'll solve problem.
it's very strange if i can estimate subtasks, but can't use it to build burndown chart. When I split my story to subtask, i'm going to assign different assignee, they can estimate subtask and actualize remaings most precisely.

And it's very strange to me, that you can't see the problem and ain't going to solve it.

Maybe there's some plugin, that recalculate story estimation based on subtask every time, it can solve our problem

 

Well said, Alexandr! For a tool that is so supremely configurable, customizeable, and tweak-able down to the most obscure bits, it's extremely frustrating that simple ideas like yours - which I would think the vast majority of the user community agrees with - are dismissed out-of-hand.

There are so many examples where most of the community wants a simple, intuitive behavior, but because it doesn't jive with Atlassian's fragmented vision of how the tool should work, it's ignored. 

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any answer to this?  I am facing the same problem

Gosh! Atlassian.

you can add up the subtask estimation to parent on view issue(Parent) screen but not to backlog estimation.

You have an option board to exclude sub-task but to to include. I am feeling dumb now to choose JIRA. Mind that i have a 2000 user license. and cribbing here on community.

Stupid me!

Mmm, it's the same answer as above - there's lots of schemes you might use, you don't want to annoy existing users by pulling their scheme out from under them, and you shouldn't estimate at sub-task level in scrum, as it's pointless.

Thank you ! I don't see a point discussing here, will try to negotiate my license renewal next time.

The "Σ Original Estimate" field will show the sum of estimates of all subtasks and the parent item.  This can be inserted as a field into the Backlog cards view but note you cannot search for the field, you must go to the bottom of the list to pick it.

This summation Estimate value does not get reflected in the summed estimates from the "Workload by assignee" pop-up in the Backlog, which still omits any sub-task estimates.

To get a view of estimates by Assignee including subtasks, I copied my existing board filter and added column for Σ Original Estimate.   I add a filter to exclude Sub-tasks from results so subtask estimates don't get counted twice.

Many have asked for the Sub-task estimate roll-up to be added as a core feature, but it hasn't been prioritized.   You can get it in Portfolio, or in a paid add-on, but still would be nice to have it standard.

What is the paid add-on you are referring to?  Atlassian, want rolled out hours estimates in Backlog view for stories! 

What an I do this:

"This can be inserted as a field into the Backlog cards view but note you cannot search for the field, you must go to the bottom of the list to pick it."

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